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Redemption Podcast

Redemption is a podcast dedicated to exploring A Guide to Modern Deposit Return Systems: 10 Essential Practices. The series is produced by Reloop North America with its Director, Elizabeth Balkan, serving as our host.

In each episode of Redemption, we dive deep into one of the essential practices and hear how they’re being used together by states and countries to build, run, and maintain an effective deposit return system to address the massive problem of beverage container waste.

Our guests include policymakers, advocates, and system operators, all seeking the best public policy solutions to change the reality that every minute worldwide 2.5 million beverage containers are being burned, buried or littered.

We hear from pioneers forging the exciting path to effective post-consumer material recovery and reuse. The Guide to Modern Deposit Return Systems will serve as our roadmap, our reference, and our inspiration on this journey.

Redemption Podcast episodes

  • In the 14th episode of Redemption, we delve into one final facet of A Guide to Modern Deposit Return Systems: 10 Essential Practices – Extended Producer Responsibility (EPR). Explore how EPR and DRS can complement each other to enhance packaging recovery and recycling rates. Featuring insights from industry experts Mike Noel of TOMRA and Lynn Hoffman of Eureka Recycling, we uncover why DRS is a vital component of effective EPR implementation, and how integrating DRS into EPR legislation can lead to higher recycling rates.Download “A Guide to Modern Deposit Return Systems: 10 Essential Practices” on BottleBillReimagined.org
  • Episode 13 of Redemption, delves into the intersection of modern deposit return systems (DRS) and existing curbside recycling programs, focusing on their impact on material recovery facilities (MRFs). We discuss how well-designed DRSs can complement MRF operations, mitigate revenue loss, and improve material recovery. Through insights from industry experts Lynn Hoffman in Minnesota and Robert Kelman in Australia, we explore the challenges and opportunities of integrating MRFs into DRSs, offering practical solutions for policymakers and stakeholders. Download “A Guide to Modern Deposit Return Systems: 10 Essential Practices” on BottleBillReimagined.org
  • In the twelfth episode of Redemption, we dive into the link between deposit return systems (DRS) and reuse initiatives. With single-use packaging dominating modern consumption, the resurgence of reusable packaging offers promising solutions to combat plastic waste. Our exploration highlights the pivotal role of DRS in facilitating the transition to refillable containers, amplifying the impact of reuse on environmental sustainability and economic efficiency. Featuring insights from Kirstie Pecci of Just Zero, Alexis Eisenberg from Reloop, and Henriette Schneider in Germany, we uncover innovative approaches driving the shift towards a circular economy. Download “A Guide to Modern Deposit Return Systems: 10 […]
  • For the final essential practice from A Guide to Modern DRS, Elizabeth and Clarissa Morawski (Reloop CEO & Co-Founder) dig into the management of material flow and financial data. This practice centers on the clearing process in which beverage containers registered upon entering the market are matched with the units returned. This is critical for operational efficiency, data management, and reporting compliance. Thank you for listening to Redemption! Be sure to download “A Guide to Modern Deposit Return Systems: 10 Essential Practices” on BottleBillReimagined.org.
  • In our 10th episode, we investigate Material Processing and Service Fees — essential Practice #9. Material processing should be optimized to reduce costs and environmental impact. Establishing fees for collectors and logistics providers can also ensure that their recycling services benefit from economies of scale. Clarissa Morawski (Reloop CEO, and Co-founder) and Ryan Castalia (Executive Director of Sure We Can) explain why both of these concepts require special attention — especially for the people who keep modern Deposit Return Systems running. Download “A Guide to Modern Deposit Return Systems: 10 Essential Practices” on BottleBillReimagined.org
  • Optimized Logistics — Practice # 8 —ensure uniform and fair procedures for those handling beverage containers, emphasizing the compaction of containers to reduce road traffic and travel time. They also encourage operators to reduce carbon emissions by using fuel-efficient or alternative fuel vehicles. Alexis Eisenberg (Reloop's Director for France and Francophonie) and Robert Kelman (Reloop’s Director for Asia-Pacific) break down the intricacies of optimizing logistics, offering perspectives from Quebec and Australia. Download “A Guide to Modern Deposit Return Systems: 10 Essential Practices” on BottleBillReimagined.org
  • Practice #7 — Infrastructure for Large-Volume Returns — is about making collection points efficient, user-friendly, clean, and tailored for bulk returns. Quebec and New York offer important lessons about infrastructure design — especially when it comes to managing bulk returns and accommodating diverse user needs.Joining Elizabeth in this discussion are returning guests Normand Bisson (President and CEO of the Quebec Beverage Container Recycling Association), Alexis Eisenberg (Reloop's Director for France and Francophonie), and Ryan Castalia (Executive Director of Sure We Can). Download “A Guide to Modern Deposit Return Systems: 10 Essential Practices” on BottleBillReimagined.org
  • Returning bottles should be easy and equitable for consumers, as well as efficient and beneficial for retailers. This is where Practice #6, Collection, comes into play. Standardizing the collection process is essential to encourage participation in Deposit Return Systems. Our featured guests, Normand Bisson (President and CEO of the Quebec Beverage Container Recycling Association) and Alexis Eisenberg (Reloop’s Director for France & Francophonie) provide a glimpse into Quebec’s DRS collection evolution. Henriette Schneider (CEO of Re-consult) is also back to discuss Germany’s user-friendly collection requirements.Download “A Guide to Modern Deposit Return Systems: 10 Essential Practices” on BottleBillReimagined.org
  • For consumers to redeem their recyclable bottles and get back their deposits, those bottles have to be recognizable during the collection process. Practice 5: Design, Marking, and Registration for Containers focuses on standards to optimize recovery and enhance recyclability. Hear from 4 expert guests — Lynn Hoffman (Eureka Recycling and National Coordinator for AMBER), Henriette Schneider (CEO of Re-consult), Robert Kalman (Reloop's Director for Asia Pacific), and Mike Noel (Public Affairs Director at TOMRA) — about why these system standards are essential for DRS success in the U.S. and abroad. Download “A Guide to Modern Deposit Return Systems: 10 Essential […]
  • Oversight and Enforcement (Practice #4) by state agencies incentivize producers to meet performance targets. They’re also key to striking a balance between private sector efficiency and innovation on one hand and optimized social and environmental outcomes on the other. Ryan Castalia (Executive Director of Sure We Can), offers eye-opening insights into the work of canners, the challenges they face in New York, and the major impact that redemption centers have on their security. Clarissa Morawski (CEO, and Co-founder, of Reloop) discusses the “sweet spot of regulation.” Download “A Guide to Modern Deposit Return Systems: 10 Essential Practices” on BottleBillReimagined.org
  • To measure DRS progress, data is crucial. Pactice #3 focuses on the importance of compliance and official reporting by producers to give legislators a clear sense of return rates, materials in circulation, and areas for improvement. Our guests, including in-house experts Clarissa Morawski (CEO, and Co-founder, Reloop) and returning guest Alexis Eisenberg (Director, France & Francophonie at Reloop), discuss the significance of data reporting and — ultimately — accountability in modern DRSs. Learn how transparent reporting ensures regulators can measure and enforce meaningful targets.Download “A Guide to Modern Deposit Return Systems: 10 Essential Practices” on BottleBillReimagined.org

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